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Wednesday, February 10, 2010

February Monthly Box Breaks - A Change

Comments are Welcome

Each break will be
2 Boxes Topps Unique
2 Boxes 2009 Topps Heritage High Number

There is no Football break in February but there will be in March.

I have been going back and forth on how to make the breaks fairer to our less fortunate teams. Obviously any of the newer teams are light on hits with a few exceptions.

It is resolved that from hereon forward the teams will be split into tiers.

(6)Any team newer than 1980 including the Nationals are in Tier 3 $10

(8)Any team newer than 1961 shall be in Tier 2 $13.50 168

(16) Any team older than 1961 shall be in Tier 1 $16.50

American League
East Baltimore Orioles 1901
Boston Red Sox 1901
New York Yankees 1901
Tampa Bay Rays 1998
Toronto Blue Jays 1977
Chicago White Sox 1901
Cleveland Indians 1901
Detroit Tigers Detroit 1901
Kansas City Royals 1969
Minnesota Twins 1901
Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim 1961
Oakland Athletics 1901
Seattle Mariners 1977
Texas Rangers 1961

National League
Atlanta Braves 1871
Florida Marlins 1993
New York Mets 1962
Philadelphia Phillies 1883
Washington Nationals 1969 - Will be Considered Tier 3
Chicago Cubs 1870
Cincinnati Reds Cincinnati 1890
Houston Astros 1962
Milwaukee Brewers 1969
Pittsburgh Pirates 1882
St. Louis Cardinals 1882
West Arizona Diamondbacks 1998
Colorado Rockies 1993
Los Angeles Dodgers 1890
San Diego Padres 1969
San Francisco Giants 1883

1. Atlanta Braves - Captain Canuck (paid)
2. Oakland Athletics -
3. Arizona Diamondbacks -
4. Philadelphia Phillies - Arfmax (paid)
5. Pittsburgh Pirates - Clint (paid)
6. Texas Rangers - Grant (paid)
7. Kansas City Royals - Darkship (paid)
8. Baltimore Orioles - Beardy (PAID)
9. San Francisco Giants - popstartled (paid)
10. Washington Nationals/Expos/Senators - Nico (paid)
11. Cleveland Indians – Alex (paid)
12. Florida Marlins - PopStartled (paid)
13. St. Louis Cardinals – Red Bird (paid)
14. Seattle Mariners - Grant (paid)
15. New York Mets – D Rauer (paid)
16. Tampa Bay Rays – Grant (paid)
17. Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim - RWH (paid)
18. Chicago White Sox - White Sox Cards (paid)
19. Toronto Blue Jays - King (paid)
20. Milwaukee Brewers - Thorzul (paid)
21. Chicago Cubs - Alex (paid)
22. Detroit Tigers - Roof God (paid)
23. Los Angeles Dodgers - Motherscratcher (paid)
24. Minnesota Twins - Gcrl (paid)
25. New York Yankees - HEB (paid)
26. Colorado Rockies - open
27. Cincinnati Reds - Alex (paid)
28. Boston Red Sox - Thoughts and Sox (paid)
29. San Diego Padres - Padrographs (paid)
30. Houston Astros - darkship (paid)

1. Atlanta Braves - Alex (paid)
2. Oakland Athletics -
3. Arizona Diamondbacks - Clint (paid)
4. Philadelphia Phillies - D Rauer (paid)
5. Pittsburgh Pirates - HEB (paid)
6. Texas Rangers - PlayatPlate (paid)
7. Kansas City Royals -
8. Baltimore Orioles - DGreen (paid)
9. San Francisco Giants - Drauer (paid)
10. Washington Nationals/Expos/Senators -
11. Cleveland Indians – Motherscratcher (paid)
12. Florida Marlins - Pop Startled (paid)
13. St. Louis Cardinals – StevenK (paid)
14. Seattle Mariners - King Felix (paid)
15. New York Mets – Ba Benny (paid)
16. Tampa Bay Rays – Paul (paid)
17. Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim - RWH (paid)
18. Chicago White Sox - Clint (paid)
19. Toronto Blue Jays - King (paid)
20. Milwaukee Brewers -
21. Chicago Cubs -
22. Detroit Tigers - Sewingmachineguy (paid)
23. Los Angeles Dodgers - GCRL (paid)
24. Minnesota Twins - Nico
25. New York Yankees - Rich R (paid)
26. Colorado Rockies -
27. Cincinnati Reds - Clint (paid)
28. Boston Red Sox - Red Bird (paid)
29. San Diego Padres -
30. Houston Astros -


Alex said...

I think this scheme is a little more fair but it doesn't account for the real problem, number of cards per team on a checklist.

Here is my example: The Yankees have a million cards on every product's checklist. The Orioles have very few cards. Both are in the same tier. In addition the best possible hits (both vintage and current) on each team are way better for the Yankees (Ruth, Mantle, Geherig, Dimaggio, Jeter, ARod vs Ripkin, Palmer, B Robinson).

Assuming a random distribution of cards, the person who buys the Yankees will get a better return in terms of number of cards than the person who buys the orioles.

Unfortunately, there is no solution to this problem that isn't tedious.

thehamiltonian said...

I'll take the Rangers slot in the second break (Exquisite and T206).

stusigpi said...


Sorry I didn't get a chance to update the list, Rangers are taken

stusigpi said...


Interestingly enough I think the big hits are a just as common for the Orioles than they are for the Yanks. Here is what I mean. There are just as many Cal Ripken patches, autos as there are Jeter and Arod. Whereas the Marlins and rockies are short on big hits period.

Your point is well taken, but I would have to come up with a matrix and calculate it for each product. As you said, tedious. Funny that the big hits we have gotten have been the Cardinals, Detroit and the White Sox. We did get the one Yankees Prime Cuts Maris, but I don't think we have gotten anything else major. The Dodgers cleaned up in Sweet Spot.

Frankly I couldn't come up with a better solution.

thehamiltonian said...

AARGH! I keep watching for them!

beardy said...

I think Alex makes a good point, and the Orioles are a good example to use.

Unless you're going to be counting the St. Louis Browns as Orioles, you may want to change that date to 1954.

NicoLax24 said...

Hey would I be able to get the Nationals/Expos/Senators in one of the breaks. I came in a little late on this so I'm not sure what the difference between the two breaks is.

I see in one of the comments that someone said the second break is T206 and Exquisite. Assuming that is correct can I get the Nats/Expos/Senators for that set of breaks? can you email me at nrmtblog@gmail.com about how to get the payment to you

Carl Crawford Cards said...

Straight up---in these economic times I'll take it! Should we go ahead and send in for next month?

Play at the Plate said...

Mr. Collector, which tier do the Rangers fall into...top or middle? Since they were listed as 1961 I wasn't sure.

NicoLax24 said...

Hey, In an email a couple days ago, you said I could claim the Nats/Expos/Senators for these breaks but I see that they are still marked as open. My payment is coming by snailmail so I don't want to lose the spots in the meantime.

stusigpi said...

Rangers are Tier 2

Pop Startled said...

Jeff, put me down for the Marlins on the second break. Payment sent via paypal.

BA Benny said...

Can I get the Mets in the second break?
How can I pay you? Do you use PayPal?

stusigpi said...

Mets are yours paypal to stusigpi@hotmail.com

BA Benny said...

Done, Thanks!